Dell's 23 Confessions

Now's not the time to mince words, so let me just say it... we blew it.

I'm referring to a recent blog post from an ex-Dell kiosk employee that received more attention after the Consumerist blogged about it, and even more still after we asked them to remove it.

In this case, I agree with what Jeff Jarvis had to say: instead of trying to control information that was made public, we should have simply corrected anything that was inaccurate. We didn't do that, and now we're paying for it.

I believe in the customer voice—that's why I signed up for this job in the first place. There's simply no cheating the system. When we're on the right track, folks tend to say some good things about us (or at least give us a second chance). When we mess up, they let us know quickly and vocally.  Then everyone watches our reaction like a hawk.

Now, if you'll allow me to shift gears just a bit, here's our own 22 23 Confessions list:

1)    Ok, we goofed.   We shouldn’t have sent a notice.  To my earlier point, we appreciate the reminder from the community.  Point taken. Yesterday, we also responded to a related IdeaStorm  idea from user jmxz. To see more, take a look for comments from our own dell_admin1 and my good pal richard_b.

2)    An easy way to scope out deals  is to go to the Home and Home Office section of Dell.com and click “As Advertised.”  In other words, click here. You can see what we’re currently offering and then chat live with a rep if you like.

3)      We have simplified our pricing and promos.  We have reduced the number of promotions per product line and the number for a single product.  We’ve also simplified our rebates. 

4)      Small Business will be different than Home and Home Office soon.   There will be a real difference between systems we offer to consumers vs. small business users that goes beyond price. Since these details depend on upcoming changes in both our Inspiron line and our small business systems, I can’t share more details just yet, but you will hear more in a few weeks. 

5)      We are committed to being the greenest technology company on the planet.  It’s the right thing to do for ourselves, our environment and our customers. See details in the Programs section of this page for more information.

6)       When your computer’s effective life has ended, we still care about it as much as you do, so we provide free recycling for all consumers worldwide.  We can’t wait for our competitors to catch up, since we all benefit from improving our environment.   Please remind them. 

7)      We don’t think many people get excited when they have to call the Geek Squad, wait around at their house and then fork over cash when you can do the same thing in the comfort of your home on your own schedule for free.  Maybe we’re crazy, but we think this is more effective.  Turns out our customers seem to agree.  DellConnect has helped over 5 million consumers for free and has a 93% satisfaction rate in a little over one year of service.  Other tools like PC-Tune-Up help automate confusing aspects of system maintenance And new tools like Dell Support Center centralize system-specific information and provide several options for reaching support to make troubleshooting easier.

8)      What if you only had to make one click to make a difference in the environment?  Well, we do this everyday via our Plant a Tree for Me program.  Through it, we empower our consumers to offset their system’s carbon footprint by making a small contribution to purchase a tree at the time of purchase or whenever you want.  And, Michael Dell is personally matching any contribution you make in June, July and August.

9)      We normally wouldn’t have said this in the past, but we have some very cool PCs being introduced later this month.  Stay tuned and you’ll see what we mean.  Matter  of fact, I've seen some pictures  here  and  here.

10)   We have a very great way for all of our customers to share ideas with us at www.ideastorm.com.  Michael actually takes your ideas and shares them widely in our company to ensure that we're all paying attention.  When Michael shares ideas with us, I can tell you that we listen extra carefully.  

11)   Speaking of Michael, you may know that our CEO is only 42 years old.  He is a true tech enthusiast who plays World of Warcraft, reads blog posts (and not just Dell’s), tracks your ideas on IdeaStorm and he really does have a notebook that runs Ubuntu 7.04.

12)   We think we should do more than sell PCs, which is why we have helped over 10,000 children in the U.S. learn how to take apart and build PCs via our TechKnow program and it is also why nearly half of our employees participate in charities.  We can always do more, but this is a good start and one of the ways we try to say thank you for your business.

13) It’s getting easier to talk with us everyday.  You can go to www.dell.com/conversations  to learn more.  We hope to hear from you and most importantly, we hope to hear your ideas on how we can improve. Many of these tools like the support.dell.com, the Dell Community Forum and Direc2Dell offer additional ways for customers to reach Dell and the community for support.

14)   Most of you are probably not checking out a PC and then trekking through the mountains to get home, but for those of you that are, we've built one of the most rugged PCs in the business. 

15)   We blog in two other languages: Chinese and Spanish—feel free to join the conversation if that suits you.   We’re having fun with our Chinese blog, since we’re the first company to offer one in our industry.  There will be a lot more to come.

16)   Our XPS systems will soon receive service from technicians in the U.S. and Canada if you buy the system in the U.S. or Canada.  We’ve also hiring more service and support team members in North America in the last 12 months or so.

17)   If you want to find Dell products and savings you saw featured in print, just refer to the E-value code for any Dell product in the catalog, flyer or print ad to find the product online.

18)   There are a number of Web sites that aggregate Dell coupon offers. Just Google “Dell coupon codes.”

19)   Dell offers choice. Our customers can order systems with Windows XP, Vista, Ubuntu, or no operating system at all. If Steve Jobs ever changes his tune on OS X, we’d probably offer it too. 

20)   Dell stands behind its products. Recent example is the XPS 700 Motherboard Exchange program.  Here goes the simplified version. About a year ago, we launched a product and promised an upgrade path to next-generation third-party BTX system boards. Since the aftermarket did not materialize as we had hoped, we announced our intentions to offer an XPS 720 motherboard with on-site installation for any XPS 700 customers at no charge.  Stay tuned.

21)   We have started offering Dell Outlet coupon codes on Twitter.com. More details soon on Direct2Dell.

22)   We’ve made even more progress on the bloatware issue. Now, much more software is optional for all of our consumer and XPS products. We’ve recently started shipping a software uninstall utility for consumers in the US to make it simple to remove software you will not use. More details here next week.

23) Did I mention that we goofed? 

 

No matter where we are at any point in time, there’s always room for improvement. The key to our success in these areas depends squarely on opening the lines of communications with our customers, taking some time to assess what the feedback means, and taking action on that feedback.

 

We’ll keep doing that, and think we’ll ultimately be a better company for it. Thanks for indulging me.

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JamesNT said:

I'll be the first to admit that Dell is getting better all the time.  Congratulations on all your recent and soon to be improvements.  Unfortunately, there is one area where Dell really needs to clean house - customer care.

Calling customer care is still an absolute NIGHTMARE.  I no longer regard it as customer care but rather customer SCARE.  Even my own personal sales rep agrees that customer care sucks.

When will I be able to understand the person at the other end of the phone?

When will a simply phone call to return a bad or incorrect part take less than 1.5 hours?

 When will you guys stop acting like used car salesmen who only care about the initial sale (which is why all the sales reps tend to be hot sounding girls or super cool guys who instantly forget about you after they have your credit card number) to acting like a true FORTUNE 500 company that follows through (i.e. customer care and tech support have people just as super cool as the sales department does)????

 I eagerly await your rehearsed response.

JamesNT

Lu Clark said:
I think Dell goofed, but guess what?  It doesn't matter, we all goof up.  I am using a Dell now, at work and at home, and find both to be reliable and trouble free.  Do I like everything about Dell - no, I think the website is confusing, and would never visit a kiosk in the first place.  By the way, how stupid do people think computer buyers are?  Just by playing around with the website, you can identify most of the "confidential" info that was released. 
majortom1981 said:

I commend dell on appoligizing for the mistake. Not all companies will admit that they made one

Kevin Owens said:
A step in the right direction. Good move Lionel to take on the issue head-on.
Mooreyameen said:
I'm going to buy Dell next.
lofi said:

to the marketing/pr team: well done, you're almost there :)

my suggestions

 * go a little lighter on the advertising links (it gets obvious..)

 * make the article about half as long in future (we have short attention spans)
 * keep the message a bit simpler e.g. (we goofed, what we've learnt, product placement, we're-one-of-you-anecdote about the ceo)

Sickr said:
It's inevitable that a situation like the one presented to Dell was going to escalate out of control, especially considering the rate of speed news travels on the Internet. Props to Dell for admitting their 'goof-up', if only more company's would do the same....
thinkliberty said:

I am still waiting on the Ubuntu machines to have more options on video cards. If I could order it with the nvidia 8800 like you can with the windows option I would order one today.

There is linux support for the 8800
 

sean said:

Seems like a lot of publicity for Dell without any cost. 

I think Dell can only beneift from this publicity. 

The difference between quality of Dell and HP systems in negligible.  For most consumers price is King and the Dell confessions told you when to get the best deals on Dell systems. 

Wouldn't surprise me if it was all just a publicity stunt by Dell.

Oldest trick in the book.

Matt said:
I was ready to boycott Dell, despite being in a family who have three Dell laptops and three Dell desktops because we're always impressed by the cost and performance of your machines. This was definitely the right thing to do.
Will said:

Well done Dell! 

Thanks for dropping by my boycott Dell post and letting me know about Dell's latest developments.

You've done a great job containing what could have been an ugly situation.  You turned a mistake into a learning opportunity.  This is how you deal with a crisis.
 

Anders Norgaard said:

Great post. Posts like this make you look like you "get it".  I hope that you can convince the entire organization that the time of threatening lawyer letters is over.

When attacked on the internet: Counter with facts, in public. It's the only thing that works now.

 All the best, Anders

PS And glad to see you mention the XPS m1330, I am so going to get one. Now if only I could get it with Ubuntu here in Spain, Europe.

PPS And please follow my suggestion :o)

http://www.dellideastorm.com/article/show/68200/Make_CDDVD_drive_swappable_with_an_extra_HD

 

Ven said:

Dell,

Amazing job with this article,

I have been a loyal dell fan since 1997 when I got my first dell at 16, I loved the customer service so much, I was a non paid dell sales man trying to get people to buy Dell's. But 3 months back when I had a monitor problem, I had spent 9 hrs yes 9 hrs on the phone to get the problem resolved. Now a new dell monitor I bought last month is acting up, I am terrified to call dell customer service. Part of me says I should live with the problem. Well I will be posting my 9 hours of dell customer service hell experience somewhere.

 BTW the XPS m1330 looks very nice, great job on the design. I am happy dell is coming up with designs that will compete with Apple.

TUNG said:
If true, I will get one of the XPS m1330 right now.
Fairplay said:

It appears Dell is quickly learning that the words "lawyer" and "leash" go well in the same sentence. 

 Remember, corporate lawyers are vampires that must feed on the blood of others to survive and justify their fat pay checks.  They really don't care who they are draining the life from (be it their employer through screw-ups like this or some poor sap who stepped off with the left foot instead of the right foot) as long as they are draining life.

 Fairplay

Ray UK said:

Well done DELL, I think the momentum is with you now.

New exciting products, and a more responsive and more proactive approach- all good pointers to the continuing improvement in customer perception DELL is now beginning to enjoy.

Anshoo Arora said:
We all make mistakes. It's okay.
Racy said:
I commend Dell on its efforts to avoid a disastrous move. Now if Dell follows by adhering to the points made up above that would be great, I might be getting a Dell soon!
Imnotta Nidiot said:

Hmmm, I'm skeptical of your post, and your sincerity, and the count of "confessions" you offer.  This article reads like it was vetted by a PR agency and perhaps Michael Dell, and I wonder if Mr. Menchaca was specifically hired to take the heat and quell the Fires of Screwup.

 Yes, there's some flavor of Mea Culpa, but nothing that I'd truly call candor - more like acknowledgement that Dell has made customers angry.  And guess what:  We Already Know That Lionel.

So don't give us fluffy apologies.  Give us real details.  Calling those 23 items "confessions" is further evidence that the Dell corporation sees consumers as malleable sheep. 

Telling us where coupons are posted (#18 and #21) isn't a confession.  

Telling us that DellConnect has a 93% satisfaction rate (#7) isn't a confession. 

Telling us how to use E-value codes (#17) isn't a confession.

Telling us that you make a mountaineering-ready laptop (#14) isn't a confession. 

Telling us that the company promotes environmentalism (#8) isn't a confession.

C'mon, 2/3rds of those confessions really ain't. 

It's long overdue that there is acknowledgement of missteps, but this MARKETING RHETORIC is far too little, far too sanitized and far too scripted.  This post reeks of damage control, not repentance. 

Shame on you Lionel.  When you and Dell want to get real, it would be welcome.  But when you offer marketing spin in confessional clothing, you hurt your own name and do nothing to improve Dell's. 


 

Lionel Menchaca, Chief Blogger said:

Hey, Imnotta. I saw your comment on Engadget as well. First off, before you doubt my overall sincerity, I'd recommend that you take a look at some of my recent posts here on Direct2Dell.

Regarding the confessions, sorry you didn't find many of them useful. Most are sales and marketing related just like the ones we reacted to. I know that some folks may already be familiar with E-Value codes and coupon codes, but some customers aren't. I included those because many in the blogosphere thought we were trying to hide those things.

I can assure you it was a sincere post. And though you may not agree, I would ask that you not make a judgement based on a single post. I've run the blog since we launched it in July, and I'd hope that we attract readers because of the content itself and humanness and sincerity.

pkchen said:
This is awesome. Keep it up, Dell!
Douglas said:
I use Small Business, so I have a personal sales rep, and Gold Support which are level-2 techs, whom I have less than 5 minute waiting times and speak English since they are all from Texas.  I have no gripes about support, usually.  Every so often when their diagnostic software doesn't find something, but my "know-how" and intuition kicks in, it can be difficult to convince them to replace a mother board over memory sticks.
J2R said:

Don't know whether you personally posted a comment on my blog or if it was just an automated system scanning for posts related to this problem, but I'm glad you did.

 Your post does show how a company should respond to issues. Admit being wrong, apologizing and promising to improve. Be humble.

I'm still a bit heartbroken with Dell, but this post shows that our relationship might still have a chance. You'd be a great marriage counselor. ;)

Lionel Menchaca, Chief Blogger said:

J2R: I did not post a comment on your blog, but JohnP@Dell did. I can definitely say he's a real person. Matter of fact, we sit right across from each other.

Glad to hear that it (potentially) has made an impression on you. I can assure you that we don't use automated responses to post to blogs... there's always real people behind those words.

 Thanks for taking the time to come here and leave a comment.

That's all fine and dandy, Dell, but please hurry up with releasing of Dell Tablet PC because otherwise I have to draw my comics with Toshiba Tablet PC yet...

Ken said:

Thanks Dell!

You obviously know what customers like and don't like, want and don't want - and as long as thats carried out and well-executed, it will lead to even more sucess.

JBL is a prime example - a large international company, but I can still pick up the phone and talk to someone who knows what they are doing...and better yet, I can get their name and call them back!  Personal service from a massive company.

Anshoo Arora said:

  I have had multiple Dell notebooks and currently use XPS M1210. Despite having tremendous number of problems and contacting tech support, I have been nothing but in the same condition again. However, the service offered was always upto par and matches Dell's repute as a Fortune company.

Introducing new notebooks is definitely a step in the right direction because your older notebooks (Inspiron 6400/1505) are not visually appealing. I can see that your chat support has streamlined and they're the best at what they do. I don't use phone support for my notebook, but I have at my University and it's really not that bad.

 I can see why there have been tremendous amonts of changes recently which started mainly after HP's lead over Dell (This is an assumption because we do watch markets).

Either way, I don't see a big deal in what is happening right now regarding Dell's former employee's confessions. Things are just being blown out of proportion a little.

Dave said:

Including a tool to remove ALL the programs included with the computer (all the bloatware) and making it "easy as one click" to uninstall and then ADVERTISING that you've included such a tool would gain you ground in the more educated consumer market.  None of this "we have made steps" garbage.

Not to be rude, but you should have had marketing tighten this apology up a little. 

theNthDoctor said:

I like Dell, but I gained that impression as an employee of a customer, not as a direct customer, and not as an employee.  The Dell PR machine is superb, Apple really needs to start taking some notes.

When I read the Confessions on Consumerist yesterday I really didn't find anything that struck me as detracting from Dell's image at first (of course it took a takedown letter to really muck things up).  The post contained insider info, is all, some of it clearly contractually protected between the writer and Dell, but once it's out, of course, protected within the public's free speech.  Obviously CSRs with bad attitudes can be a blemish and there were quite a few tidbits of business secret in the Consumerist post, and that's a hassle for Dell, and that brings me to the one place where I think Dell dropped the ball with this response...

Customers often do care about how your CSRs feel on the job.  I don't see that being addressed here.

When I go to a fast food joint and they get my order wrong, I have a grain of salt at the ready - after all, as I say, they aren't getting paid enough to care.  It's not just about pay, either.  It strikes me as really odd that Secret Shoppers should be such a hassle that a rep is going to get paranoid and rude and that it can show in the kiosk shopping experience just because a real customer is curious or informed. 

Sure, maybe the article is describing select 18 year old kids who don't care about anything, but on the other hand, a person who moved up through the ranks to manage 3 different stores in a region probably has learned not to sweat the little stuff.  Talk of how easy it is for shoppers to get every single coupon in the computer and buy from the exclusive part of the catalog ... this isn't just a challenge for Dell's business plan, it's a sign that these employees who work in between both worlds -- corporate Dell culture and street-consumer culture -- aren't finding sufficient reason to respect Dell.

Any place where I've worked that I no longer respect, lost that respect for a good reason. If corporations are to be viewed both legally and culturally as individuals in business who must earn and defend their respect, employee perspectives have to be taken as a barometer of how businesses affect that relationship.  In that way, employees are insiders who "really know the guy" (the guy being Dell Inc., not necessarily Michael personally).  Those insiders tell us what's behind the smiles (or lack of them).

Don't get me wrong - what I'm talking about is hardly unique to Dell.  But  almost everybody is someone's employee.   Dell could take this opportunity to publicly 'make it right' with kiosk workers, or at least talk about Dell's impressions of that side of the story.

Jason Ledbetter said:

Regarding point #19 - I applaud Dell for this change. However, as a critical consumer, I must state that Dell has only gone part of the way. This operating system choice is limited to a select set of systems and not across the board.

Lionel Menchaca, Chief Blogger said:

Jason: Stay with us... Remember that the three systems in the U.S. was done in about 60 days. Longer-term, lots of folks here understand that developing Linux at the kernel level is a big deal.

There will be more to come.

Chris said:
Yawn, just sell PC's and stop talking.  Selling Ubuntu PC's is the smartest thing you've done yet.  I won't be happy until you offer it on more than 3 models, ridiculous.  I had a friend buy your Ubuntu Laptop, ya that 1 laptop model (geez).  Well, he got it, was happy until an update and boom.  What happen?  I gave him an "official" Ubuntu 7.04 CD, installed it, did updates, no problem.  Conspiracy I say.  Trying to turn would be Ubuntu users into "maybe I should just stick with Windows users".  Sad, but I hear the issue is fixed now. 
Erica said:

Thanks for apologizing.  As Gaby on Consumerist wrote, working with and not against the consumer will work for you, I believe.  In any situation (marriage, the workplace, or customer relations), when a person feels respected, acknowledged, and treated as human, they are more likely to cooperate and remain loyal.

When many other companies are not willing to do that, being the one company that listens to their customers could be quite an asset.  I believe that.

Please continue to strive to remember that you need us.  Without us, the consumers, your company wouldn't exist at all.

T Man said:

Thanks for the confession.  Quick reaction to what was a very negative situation.  I think many of us had seen a gradual decline in the quality of Dell (not necessarily the hardware, but the other aspects), and I can say without a doubt that is changing for the better.  You certainly acknowledge it as a long road, but one that is worth taking.

Now, the only thing I have to say is that you certainly should have known better.  After the flare up recently with the Apple/PC World situation, these types of things don't happen in a vacuum anymore.  Reporting is quick and mostly negative.  Responding to complaints, rather than trying to take them down works much better in the long run. 

John Depaz said:

Muy bueno sus 23 confesiones, los felicito , hacen un buen trabajo !

yo feliz con mi DELL optiplex GX110 :-)

 

Saludos de Lima, Peru

John,

Un blogger de tecnologia

 

 

jorge said:
On number 19 you list no-OS but for the Workstation Class computers you only offer Red Hat Linux, why not no-OS like the link states? Or was it incorrectly listed? We... well somebody out there must understand why you need FreeDOS instead of no-OS (testing?) but why not no-OS? Testing? Some of your customers actually install their own OS as odd as that may sound. Companies have different standards and security restrictions which require wiping any pre-installed OS no matter who it comes from. A no-OS option will make many customers happy, you can include a FreeDOS diskette or CD if you feel you need to but they will only go in the recycle bin.
Rabbit said:
Can I make a suggestion? Quit calling us consumers. Thanks.
Gordon Imrie said:
I watched this contretemps unfold, and am pleasantly surprised.  I swore off Dell years ago (for the usual reasons, esp cust tech svc and Win 2000 never working on a 300Power-something) after buying new units for my family and parents regularly, almost as far back as Michael-in-his-dorm-room...  I'm a SONY VAIO guy for my firm, too, b/c I can buy a similar model on a weekend if mine dies.  But now Dell seems to be available in kiosks, etc, so maybe I'll reconsider.
xian said:
uh, yeah right.

"we goofed" meaning this is a bad public relations problem and if no one had noticed it we would have continued requesting the information taken down to possibly the point of involving a legal team?  (yes, i am making a guess that legal would get involved but since the take down notice mentions 'confidential and proprietary.'  i can only assume that's where it would lead, but that is conjecture.)

too little too late.  think a little bit before you act.  Dell is in the business of selling products to consumers right?  and this goes for every other company out there.

and really #9?  you're pushing products in your apology?

I posted my thoughts here:

http://www.centernetworks.com/dell-forgets-to-think-first-thinks-last

My advice to Dell is simple: Think.

Teddi Dunson said:

There is little in the 22 points that isn`t common knowledge. For several years I have been checking the different sales and getting rock bottom price on the specs. Number 24 should be after checking out all the sales, print the config. out and call Dell order and get some money knocked off.

If the different depts. in Dell really read their e-mails and actually talked to each other, this wouldn`t have happened. OK, you got caught with your pants down again. The bloggers, readers and consumers aren`t stupid.

Me said:
Nothing there? --> OMG HIDDEN!!

The phone sale people are polite and informed and are usually from the USA for when the calls are originating from the USA  - however, the customer service reps are outsourced to foreign nations where English is not the major language. They are very polite and dedicated - but still it is not the same.

 

Why is priority being given to sales but not to service?

 

It just is too difficult to communicate - it is one thing to KNOW English - but another to be naturally comfortable with it 

Teddi Dunson said:

Response to IMNOTTA NIDIOT:

I would like to clarify something in your post. Lionel is a very nice, sincere, highly inteligent person. He has been with Dell a while and is not there to put out a fire. He dosen`t need a PR person to write his comments, he is well able to write them himself.

techman said:
You goofed allright, but you havent corrected the mistake, atleast not completly. Talking about charity work may help bringing out a positive spin to the deservedly negative publicity you are getting, but it doesnt convince some of us. You only need to take a look at Microsoft to find an example of a charitable-evil company.

Your mistake wasnt only the notice you sent to consumerist.com, but failing 
the consumer in principle, and I cant find anything in your confessions
which convinces me to go and buy a Dell computer.

How about being honest and fixing all the glitches in your laptops which you
have been shipping over the last 2 years...how about that for charity?
John said:

"and call Dell order and get some money knocked off."

Really?  I tried to order 6 laptops.  I found one that I wanted on the web site, but the unit price for 6 was more than the unit price for 1.  I called to get a better price since I was ordering 6 laptops.  The price given on the phone was higher than the price on the web!  I was told that Dell has to make money so they charge more if you order more.

Good thing though.  I ordered 6 HP laptops for less then Dell.  For some reason, Dell charges an arm and a leg for RAM.

I will need 14 laptops total.  I know it doesn't hurt Dell to lose the sale of these 14 laptops, but I'll be going back to HP for rest.

Super Mike said:

Mr. Dell, great job. I just might come back around to this company after avoiding it for a good while. Sounds like you need a management shakeup to put guys in place who care, all the way from the guys beneath you and then down to the managers of the customer reps.

 

Ryan W said:
So, now that Dell has turned a new leaf, does that mean something will be done about the 5 month wait time I've had for my Express Upgrade to Windows Vista? Not only have I been lied to by Dell Customer Service numerous times (I was told in March I would be receiving my upgrade "soon, I promise.") but I have also received ZERO compensation for my wait! And now, after my last call earlier this month, I was told I'd receive it by the end of June. Well, I have yet to receive an email to tell me it was shipped and we've already passed June's midpoint. I should get a free upgrade to Vista Ultimate for all the trouble I've been put through! Not only does this make me never want to buy another Dell, it has me so worked up that I'm going to start a letter campaign to my Student Government at Stony Brook University to try and get them to switch the manufacturer they get a discount from to anyone BUT Dell. I start school in the first week of July, and look forward to getting that started.
Developer and Dell customer said:

Thank you for this post.  I hope this is a true reflection of the direction that Dell is headed and not just PR damage control.

I develop software on a Dell laptop and I bought my son a Dell laptop as a graduation gift.  I like to recommend Dell to my friends who ask my opinion about which computer to buy and if this blog is a true reflection of Dell's direction then I can continue to do this comfortably.

 

For me there was very little surprise info in the 22 confessions, I have been working with Dell for several years now. However, I was disappointed to read Dell's legal response and it made me pause and wonder if I should be recommending Dell to my friends.  This article goes a long way toward restoring my faith and I will be watching to see if Dell "walks the walk".

While I agree that a fair amount of the post is hype, I also was glad to read number 16.  I hope that Dell sees the light and moves most of its support to North America (at least for North American customers).  Nobody will provide better care for your customers than you.  If you think they do, then you will find that they are no longer your customers.

 Thanks again.

 

Me said:

If Dell wishes to make an apology, where is the letter from Dell legal to the Consumerist officially apologizing and agreeing that the previous claims were in error and/or no further claims will be made?

 As far as I can tell, the Consumerist folks are still on the business end of a legal threat from Dell, and someone else from Dell posting on a blog that Dell goofed does not change that, nor make things right.

Don't just see "gee, I'm sorry" - make things right. 

Martin said:
Please remove the posting... It contains information that is confidential and proprietary to Dell.

This is what your lawyer emailed to the consumerist. This is not a goof-up, or an innocent mistake. It is not about possible error in the posting. This is the beginnings of a well-planned legal threat by Dell.

Since it has transpired that the blog posting does not contain any confidential and proprietary information, it seems Dell's representative lied to ensure that customers do not get the best deal.

Your attempt  to gloss over this fact is simply an attempt to try and pretend it didn't happen, since none of the points in this blog actually address the issue of "information that is confidential and proprietary to Dell".

tricia brown said:
what i want to know is when are the problems going to be corrected? You can sit there and give all the cofessions you want, but i will tell you that your customers want to see action, not cofessions. We already know Dell goofed up we can clearly see that in the use of our computers. I have never in my life had a software that was more difficult to use. I am having downloading issues, it seems that this software does not allow a customer to do anything or go anywhere or download anything. What are we suppose to do if we cant do anything on it?? I bought a computer so i could play online games and cant even get a program as easy or as simple as Java to download and work because of security issues. I have notified the technical support twice and neither of them could seem to help me out, but to tell me it is a "bug" in the system. What i would really like to know is what is Dell planning to do about these bugs and how do we get around them so that we can go back to enjoying our computers. I think that if there are bugs in windows vista then it should be up to Dell to correct them instead of pawning it off on other companies to correct. I agree that customer service is not the best with Dell. I am a first time Dell buyer and I was excited when I purchased my new Dell a week ago. And in less then a week I am tired frustrated and stressed, not to mention not at all as happy with my decision, as i was a week ago. I have had thoughts of returning my system and going with something different. WAY TO GO DELL!!!!!!!!
Travis said:

Glad you admitted you made a mistake.  I like Dell machines, and now that I see that you can handle stuff like this responsibly (even if you did screw up, you admitted it) I can continue to suggest your products in good conscience to people who ask.


Glad to see you're still a pretty decent company after all. 

Rob said:

Look, coming from a guy who got his start in IT in a mom and pops PC store and swore by the custom built PC, I gotta say, the last 2 years, dell has won me over. My main pc is my Inspiron 6000d, on a 2407 LCD. I bought 2 other laptops, one for my wifey and one for my mother, and they work flawlessly (Although Inspiron 1000 needs to replaced as it just too old). I had problems with my Monitor, Dell overnighted me a replacement. I had a rom failure, Dell sent me a new one, that was an upgrade to the original. I have my eye on 27 inch Dell LCD now.

 Every company has mess ups, every big company has PR issues, but, that's part of the job, and Ill go to Dell for my next laptop as well.

 Well, its not all good, I hate the tech support :) Yes, I rebooted. heh.

M1330 said:

I have had a 1/2 dozen Dell laptops and I have given up after every single one of them a hardware issues as well as the cosmetic issue with the wristrest. Why does all the newer Dells have paint that fades on the wristrest? If the M1330 is actually a cost effective toy maybe I will give up my IBM for it.....

Steve said:
We should enter the era of no-OS on all models. Most people are tired of Microsoft and their crappy products. Vista was supposed to be better but it is not. Office costs an arm and a leg and I would much rather pick and choose my own OS then have to pay the Microsoft Tax. Give the people a chance to vote with their money on all models. I bet you will find some people want XP, some people want Vista, some want no OS and some want Ubuntu. Give us a choice and maybe we will give you our money again. Alternatively, you can go from 2nd place to 3rd place in US computer sales.
Jeremy Lang said:

Great news on living up to your XPS desktop promises, but what about those of us with XPS laptops?

 A major reason I bought an XPS gen2 was the promised service and support.  Specifically, an advertised benefit of buying an XPS laptop was 'regular driver updates'.  It's been over a year since you've published an update for my XPS 2's 6800 drivers and your support was worthless on the issue.  I've even had a letter on this topic published in Maximum PC magazine, with no appreciable effect. 

Adam Zey said:
This is all well and good, and I'm glad to hear that Dell stands behind their products, but what's with the mess that are drivers for Dell notebooks? Dell tends to only post drivers to certain notebook pages even when other notebooks with the same hardware could benefit from them. Users on notebookforums have taken to scouring the driver pages of ALL Dell notebooks to find out when there's a new driver for a certain part (be it audio, video, wireless, etc.) We should NOT have to do this to find the latest drivers for certain devices, such as a sigmatel chip shared by multiple Dell notebooks.

And what about those of us with Vista? Dell still hasn't released new drivers to fix the major incompatibilities between the Sigmatel audio and Dell wifi drivers that causes stuttering sound issues for ALL owners of Dell wifi cards in the E1705! So many customers are affected, and yet all we've heard is "we're working on it" for months in the Dell forums. Not a post on direct2dell, and no word on when to expect a fix.

It's very frustrating. Dell's driver support is a huge mess right now, and needs a major overhaul. Customers should be able to check one page and know that they're seeing the latest and greatest drivers for their computer, without having to check the page of every Dell notebook to see if there's a new driver for a component.
Mohamad said:

I bought my first Dell in 1996 after working all summer, not playing with my friends, and saving everything I earned when I was 14 years old. It was a Dell Dimension XPS P200s- it was beautiful and it was worth every penny. Just like many of your other customers I became a Dell salesman to other members of my family because of the QUALITY of your products. I probably made you tens of thousands of dollars.

Sadly, Dell became a greedy Fortune 500 corporation and lost its way.

My biggest complaint: You outsourced AMERICAN jobs to INDIA (At a time when Americans need new [non-minimum wage] jobs). As a result you screwed your loyal customers just to save a few bucks. You delivered an INFERIOR product - and look what it cost you, you are now number two behind HP (I started buying HP around the time you started to suck hardcore). 

When I call Nintendo (you know, the Japanese Corporation, Nintendo) the tech support is polite, well spoken AMERICANS. They don’t mind paying Americans 20 dollars an hour, because they respect their customers. Can I just ask what the hell is wrong with you people? 

Let me digress briefly - your greedy and deceitful policies speak to a larger problem in corporate America:

I grew up in Dearborn, Michigan; as you may all know, the once almighty Ford Motor Corporation is centered here. The Rouge plant was once the largest factory on the planet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Rouge_Plant

It was a testament to American ingenuity and vision. Ford invented the 5 dollar day and invented the American middle class. The same American middle class that is now under siege.

I am aware that the poor management of the Big Three after WW II is responsible for their fortunes. However, let me say that every other greedy corporation that outsourced hard working American labor and EXPLOITS the impoverished people of INDIA AND CHINA, erodes the American middle class. Why? All so that Michael Dell can be worth 15.8 billion rather than what? 12 billion? 10 billion? How many billions does he need? How many millions of loyal Americans must he RIP-OFF? How many thousands of Dell employees must he LAYOFF?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18967391/

When we call tech support and can't understand the person we are being robbed; we are not receiving the quality of service that we paid our hard earned money for. All potential Dell customers should remember that. Dell management including Lionel Menchaca, Digital Media Manager is just a bunch of thieves in suits. Digital Media Manager = Minister of Propaganda

PS I doubt that Michael Dell ever considers anything that doesn’t make him a profit. And before you talk about all the millions he donates to charity…THAT’S A TAX WRITE OFF.

I’m not a very good writer, but I hope people can see my point of view

Geo said:
Frankly, I'm using a Dell E1405 to write this, and I've been very happy with the machine since it arrived.  I am glad though to see that Dell can admit to a mistake.  It makes me feel that my next machine is going to be from Dell since I now feel I can trust that Dell will be more honest than some companies.
Brad Potts said:
I think it's great that Dell comes out publicly and states that they "goofed". They could have easily made up excuses like some politician. Mad props to Dell! 
Steve Call said:

Where is my "Tablet PC"  YOU PROMISED ME I COULD HAVE THIS. 

 Ohh, I'm writing this on a Inspirion 9100, just bought the E521 and no post should ever encourage insurance fraud, abusing your warranty like that is against the law, but more importantly its wrong.  Ever heard of Hell?
 

Nocturnal said:
It's absolutely wonderful that a company like Dell has offered not only this blog to communicate with the consumers but also its suggestion box.  Compare that to any other company out there, no one else can match it.  That's why I recommend Dell to ALL my family and friends and even customers since I fix computers for a living.
C Mann said:

Just reading through all these "hoops" one must go through to find the best deal reminded me why I have stopped buying Dells and now just go to Costco to see which HP suits me best.

 In over a dozen tries I couldn't manage to stumble onto just the right configuration to get the lowest price advertised and of course when I used another computer to start at another point of the Dell web site, the same configuration came up with a completely different price. Who has time for such nonsense when there are perfectly good computers available without having to go through that?

Unfortunately for Dell, I am in a position where I get asked a lot about recommendations of what/where to buy. These folks are not very technical and have neither the patience or know-how to dig into the Dell process to get the best deal. I value my reputation, so I don't send them to Dell--I send them to Costco.com...

Clean up your act Dell. Stop trying to "glean the fields" by squeezing every last penny you can get out of folks--no one likes being subjected to that. To me that is just as important as your environmental stance!
 

Sprezzatura said:

How on Earth does the fact that Michael Dell plays WoW have anything even remotely resembling relevance to the issue at hand?

 Seriously, it's like someone in Dell's PR department sat down and said, 'gee, let's make a list of as much stuff as we can possibly come up with that will give us geek street cred to try to make up for our mistake.' 

Andrew Sinclair said:

I think an apology from Tracy Holland, Esq. to all concerned, perhaps using the consumerist.com as a vehicle, is in order.  I own a Dell computer running Windows XP Professional.  I had considered further Dell purchases, particularly the Ubuntu pre-load, but Ms. Holland's heavy-handed takedown letter leads me to believe that Dell does not want my business.  I was particularly impressed by the original article, and very unimpressed with her objections to it. 

Please, have *everyone* at Dell prove me wrong.

 

kirab said:

I'm not convinced. If the consumerist did take the material off their site as requested by Dell, then they would not have been compelled to write this blog entry.

The Dell request did more bad then good, and was further worsened by the consumerist posting their replies to the letters Dell sent. This created an even worse scenario, and this is how Dell responded to it.
 

Will said:

Imnota: 

"It's long overdue that there is acknowledgement of missteps, but this MARKETING RHETORIC is far too little, far too sanitized and far too scripted.  This post reeks of damage control, not repentance."

Yes, the apology does sound scripted and it did blossom into a full marketing brochure.  But it does offer benchmarks for improvement.  For example:

4)      Small Business will be different than Home and Home Office soon.

Dell "different pricing for the same computer" model always bugged me.  I'm glad they are finally going to change that business practice.   Of course, Dell is being ambiguous about when the changes will come.  We will, of course, unleash holy hell if they go back on any of the promises made here.  For today, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Tyler said:
I wouldn't have probably heard about it were it not for Dell's tactics, but this article tells me there is hope for some of these megacompanies. 
Somdeb Majumdar said:

Am I the only one here who thinks these are not really *confessions*? Irrespective of Lionel's sincerity in other posts, this one seems to be more of a damage control act with sugary interludes of how Dell is getting better everyday.

Many of the things you *claim* Dell is doing for the better certainly has its place... but when they are in a topic with the word "confessions" in it, true motives begin to seem a little suspect...

Most of us weren't born yesterday.
 

Kieran said:

You say:

Dell offers choice. Our customers can order systems with Windows XP, Vista, Ubuntu, or no operating system at all. If Steve Jobs ever changes his tune on OS X, we’d probably offer it too.

Bring it to Australia - we want more choices too. 

StephB said:
Congrats, no i mean really, you really saved yourself from so much bad publicity, Lately i've been recommending Dell for laptops and I mean quickly turning around with that cease and desist crap just saved you from me recommending Toshiba or HP.
manicallday said:

Man... Whomever made that call to react like the RIAA needs to be fired. Point blank no discussion. It's not like Dell is making any real quality products at the present time, other than servers. You can't have your products blow up one month and then pull something like this the next.

 
Apologies are worthless when you reach this far in the game. Dell should just know better. The problem is that the people that you have working in your organization. Everybody, including legal, in the Dell organization should know that such a threatening letter wasn't going to bode well. So rather than fire the real problem, those responsible for the threatening the threatening letter, you probably got rid of the guy who wrote the confessional. Well I think that it's time to make amends.

Dell needs to literally fire everyone responsible for their legal threat. This would be an efficient way to rid yourself of the very element that's currently holding your organization back. Just use the chain of command as a guide and begin plugging away. I assure you that this will help your organization immensely.


 

 

Blake said:
Wow, I am going to buy a Dell next time just because of this post. I really respect a company who is this open with their customers-the most important part of any company. :-)
john d. said:

I think Dell is getting better and better as a company, maybe in response to recent financial and marketshare hardships. 

I used to not like Dell, and think they were bad quality, catering to the 'don't know any better' crowd, but then I found a great deal on a Dell laptop, and here it's still a great computer two and a half years later. It's been rock stable the whole time. My next computer will be a dell, or possibly a mac.

ebaum said:

I appreciate this apology.  Personally, I've been through my love/hate/love/hate relationship back to simply:  dell is a good option.

 It's as good as any, and better in many circumstances.

 

 

Geoff Davis said:

I don't appreciate different systems being offered to Home/Home Office, Medium Office and Large Business. I'm a software developer, I want to look at EVERYTHING available when I'm looking for a computer, whether that's for work, or not.

If you go to www.dell.com.au you cannot get a laptop with ANYTHING except Vista. That means "no operating system" isn't provided either! I tried www.dell.com and couldn't find a laptop with a 17" screen that had anything other than Vista of XP.

I'm still far from impressed with dell lately.

I do appreciate www.ideastorm.com I just hope they respond to more of their users concerns.

RobC said:
It doesn't matter what Dell say they will and won't do. My painful experience with 80 Dell desktops (bought on a single order) over the past three years convinces me never to buy from this company again. You would think that after three years, Dell would have managed to get the specification of the PCs to match the order that I placed wouldn't you? I still live in hope. The constant telephone calls achieve just a further sequence of mistakes. You had your chance Dell, and blew it!
Shush said:

Hmmm... I don't think your the only green PC company out there. Gateway has been doing it. They also take any old PC's... not just their PC. If Michael Dell really cares about what customers say, he should spend more time answering to consumers not playing Warcraft. Heck, he should've written this blog. The fact that he changes his email whenever he feels somebody has discovered it only shows that he DOESN'T care. Can you clarify #16... are you talking about local people here or foreign people that you flew in here.