XPS M1330: What's Going On?

Since my last post, many of you made it clear that you want us to share more details about what's going on with the XPS M1330. I want to apologize for the frustration that these delays are causing you. I understand that no amount of explanation is a substitute for shipping the system, but hope this helps address some of your concerns.

Right now, we are focused on shipping as many systems as we can. Currently, we have worked through about 10% of our backlog and will focus on improving this going forward. Despite our best efforts, we may not be able to ship some orders before the original estimated ship date we gave you. In those cases, Dell will be contacting affected customers to let them know. Details will vary by region.

When you order a system, the estimated ship date factors in our best currently available information, including the number of orders in front of you and the availability of parts. It should not change unless something impacts one of these factors. If that happens, we will contact you.

As Lionel mentioned in an earlier post, we have found the production ramp more difficult than we expected—let me take a few minutes to explain the process. Before we begin shipping products to customers, we build a sizeable number of units to test our manufacturing process and to help flush out any issues that may impact our ability to build in volume. These test builds are a fraction of what we expect to build at full production. Once we start building a larger number of units, we may see issues that pop up in only one or two of them, but which require larger volumes to reveal themselves.  Since it's hard to tell if the issue is an isolated one or if it will affect a large number of units down the road, we investigate each one thoroughly. When that happens, it slows our build process.  

One example of this is the painting process. Right now, Tuxedo Black is the only color that is consistently meeting our quality standards. That's one reason why some customers are getting their orders before others. The finish on the XPS  M1330 is similar to a custom paint job on a car, but with one additional complexity—on a car, typical viewing occurs from several feet away. With a notebook, the typical viewing range is much closer... sometimes a foot or less. This requires a different level of attention to detail.  Why do I bring that up? There was no problem painting hundreds at a time.  But as we increased the volume, otherwise manageable factors like dust contamination caused our successful yields to decrease.  Adding to the complexity, the Crimson Red and the Pearl White colors require more coats of paint and more touches to create the finished product—that means there is more opportunity for dust contamination.

All this ultimately results in fewer finished parts from the paint line than we expected.  You may have noticed on Dell.com yesterday we discontinued the Pearl White color. The reason is that we are just not able to produce the kind of volumes of high quality product that we need to support demand. It takes about 5 coats of paint to get the appearance we were looking for.
We are working to ship white units that meet our standards to all customers who ordered them, but those may be the last of the units using the current process, as we continue to pursue alternate methods of producing high-quality white units.

Unanticipated part shortages also hold up our ability to ship products. The most obvious issue is one mentioned in earlier posts-the LED backlit LCD display. First off, it's new technology, and that means there are fewer suppliers available. Bright white LEDs provide the backlight for the LCD instead of a fluorescent tube. It results in a brighter display that offers better color reproduction, is thinner and lighter, and draws less power. This relatively limited supply base combined with stronger than anticipated demand-the number of orders has simply exceeded our expectations-has  contributed to the delays. Our vendors are ramping production as quickly as possible, but these displays continue to be in short supply.

We're committed to shipping these systems as quickly as we can. Once again, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your business and your continued patience.

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Daniel said:

Too little too late from Dell. 

I cancelled my $2,500 m1330 order yesterday on my lunch break, and drove directly to the Sony store to pick up their new 11.1 inch TZ-170.

After months of waiting for my Dell, I can gladly say that my new Sony is in hand now.  My only regret is that I didn't cancel my order earlier.

 

Eric said:
I ordered 4  around July 1. 2 black w/o LED, came this week, one red with LED, shipped today, and one white w/o LED. The first three arrived well before the esrimated delivery of mid-august and late august (red with LED). I understand things are not goin as well as hoped but I am very happy with the service I have recieved and communication through this blog. I am hopeful the white will come soon, but understand "stuff" happens and it must be cleaned up. Good luck in the fine tuning and ramping up of production on this exquisite product.
susie martin said:
Why do you only comment on xps and not inspiron's. We are having problems as well. i ordered my inspiron 1520 on june27 est. ship july 16  and it did not ship was recommended by dell csr to cancel and reorder i did on same day july16 est. ship now aug 2 well it didnt ship got a automated call on that same day now est ship is aug 28. Oh and by the way i was it told it was the lcd shortage yea right. But you continue to sell products you do not have.  Are we just supposed wait around forever for our laptops by then they will be so outdated.  another frustrated customer                                           
William said:

OK, so I get it. These systems are delayed because of blah blah blah delays to "new" LED screens (Sony has had them out for how long now?), and because apparently painting has suddenly become tricky.

To summarize this update: We've shipped 10% of the backorders, and uh....we're trying. honest.

Billybatson (sevag) said:

I recieved my unit today. I had ordered on June 27th. They bumped my est. ship date back to Aug 3rd from July 29th however it ended up shipping 1 day early on Aug 2nd. Although I am so far happy with my unit and every time I spoke to customer care they were nice I can't help but havea bitter taste from this whole thing.

I was told that I would be contacted on 2 different dates which never happened, it took dell 6 days to reply to my email in which they didn't even answer my question, and the delayed update here on direct2dell.com.

If anyone is curious my unit is black with a T7300, LED LCD, BT, wireless N, fingerprint reader, 120gb HD, 1gb ram

Jason said:

Aren't these all things you should of thought of before you started selling it and marketing it?

thanks for the honesty finally but really there is no excuse for selling a product you don't even know how to build yet???


 

Palonzo said:

Finally a step in the right direction. Clear answers. No mention on why orders are cancelled out of the blue, with no explanation. This needs to be addressed to insure customers have confidence in the system. I can't tell you what it feels like to have to wait 7 weeks on a system you paid top dollar for, all the while reading numerous customers tell of their orders being cancelled. How do I know I won't be the next one. Given the feedback I've read from countless members on different forums, this is by no means a small and isolated incident. Just another issue that needs to be addressed so your customers don't feel in limbo. Ordering a PC shouldn't feel like a crap shoot.

Additionally, these updates need to come more frequent. A weekly update is not sufficient. This is the computer industry after all. Hold yourselves to higher standards, please.

Nick Young said:

I am one of the lucky 10% and I have to say that this is the kind of post we have been looking for the past month. Thank you Alex.

For the first time we actually hear some details about what is really going on, and not just the standard PR blurb about the process and quality checking. The quality of the system is very important, and the fact that you are taking it seriously is appreciated. By myself anyway.

Nick said:
Speaking as someone who ordered a Black/LED M1330 on June 27 with an ESD of August 1, I feel that being contacted August 1 and pushed back four weeks to August 28 does not reconcile with the statements in the post above.  Black should be no problem, so we can rule that out.  As far as the LED goes, with years of experience as a Build-to-Order manufacturer, Dell should have very close relationships with suppliers and visibility of parts availability, so it should be very clear at the time of order if there will be a shortage of parts, and any delay should be foreseeable much earlier than 5pm on the ESD, and should be a delay of days not weeks, if any.  Furthermore, the ~8,000 posts at NotebookReview.com show that similarly spec-ed systems ordered after mine have been shipped and received already.  Certainly the post above is more specific than earlier ones that were corporate platitudes, but it still doesn't quite reconcile to the facts.
Palonzo 4 cell battery Explanation said:

Please address what will happen to customers who ordered a 4 cell battery and the premium nVidia card. Will we get these orders? Why was such an obvious oversight committed before a launch?

I ordered a 4 and 9 cell battery and I'm reading from other customers who had their orders cancelled. Again, I feel as if this is just another issue that will put me on the cancelled or further delayed camp.

Also, what is the reason for not allowing customers to order a 9 and 6 cell battery. This is highly unusual. Please explain this, as such, this has only exasperated the problem with your 4 cell 'recall?'.

Pete said:

I personally have expressed my frustration here about the lack of information provided initially by Dell regarding the delays in shipping this notebook.  That being said, I find it extraordinary that the Dell folks are providing these forums to interact with their (huge) customer base, and really seem to be listening AND responding (in a professional manner here, and in action with respect to the IdeaStorm site).  THANK YOU Dell, from at least one customer, for this, and for your commitment to providing a high-quality product.

NO, i don't work for Dell.   

Jason Falk said:
It's at least good to see that these delays aren't resulting in compromised quality.  I'm still patiently awaiting my red unit and will continue doing so (my ESD isn't until Aug 23rd).  Looks like a great product, thanks for the update.
Robert said:

Alex this is basically what i was waiting for (probably that applies to others as well). At least this sounds believable of whats going on and at least i can perfectly see the issues and it gives me a better understanding of why i'm sitting here for weeks on end with a paid bill for a product i haven't seen. The informations so far have been more of a "vaporware" company so far then the ones of a renowned Computer manufacturer. Thanks for this.

On a sidenote, even if it won't effect me, please introduce a process to change orders after they were made without cancelling. All "compensations" i have been offered so far (a bag, a printer, a warranty extension) would have required that i cancel and resubmit my order, which i'm not willing to do, being a customer who ordered on 06/28 and i need that machine by 08/27 at the latest for a trip. Reordering would shed all my hopes of ever getting this in time.

Thank you, are there any news if EMEA has commenced producing the M1330 in red by any chance?

peter said:

Thank you for this information, but I guess you lost a lot of customers.

As I already mentioned in a earlier note, I ordered on July 12 and cancelled on July 14 (because of the downgrading of the processor).
Still waiting for my money...wrote an e-mail and phoned at least three times. Every time they said sorry and that they will send a mail for confirmation of the call...still got no money and no mail confirmation...3 weeks gone now.

Unfortunately there's no notebook as good as this one. Have to wait for something similar.

Harman said:

I am happy i am one of the lucky 10% my estimated date was Aug 13th, but when i changed my ordered it turned to Aug 22nd, but my order has shipped, i have gotten my tracking number and can't wait. The reps have been very helpful. Can't wait for the system :)

If anyone wnats to know my specs are 2.0 ghz processor, 2 gb of ram, normal screen with 2mp carmera, my laptop is black, with nvidia video card

Palonzo said:
Quick question: Not that I care, I'm getting a black. But why do other models such as the 1520 not have problems with white in mass order. Surely the more mainstream 1520 is getting more orders then the xps m1330. They must paint these systems in the same manner as the 1330's.
Jen said:

So...when exactly will I (and the rest of people who requested the white lid) be getting the laptop? My est ship date has been pushed back twice now. I don't mind waiting on a great unit but there's gotta be a limit. How am I sure that the ship date won't be pushed back again and again and again?Does dell really believe that it can get away just by posting a few lines and train the sales rep to say "sorry for the inconvenience" to the customers? If Dell wants to be the experet in the industry, shouldn't you know about the problems way before the computer goes out to public? Instead, Dell decided to use the customers as lab rats to test out for the "process". That's simplely crap. 

 

Joseph said:

Alex, first thank you for the update. It is all starting to make sense & I am okay to wait if I know why. However, as Nick said I too ordered a black LED display on July 1 & have not received my order despite many others with the same specs ordering weeks later now receiving them. Also, I am concerned that my order will be held up or cancelled because my spec allowed a 4 cell battery & now the same configuration shows that this is not compatible (why, i don't know). I have called and asked CSR to be sure that it is okay, but they don't have a clue & just read back my order!

Anyhow, I like the openness of this Blog but I just wished you could set up a special 800 number with trained reps that understand the issues with the M1330 & to help all of us.

Joe 


 

 

Dude I might actually get my Dell! said:

Thank you!

 Nice update!

Keep Them Coming!!!

 Thanks alot!

Dr. Wiilow said:
I got an e-mail notification saying that mine was shipped yeserday. I checked my Status and it said it was shipped with a tracking number. It was be here shortly.
Mike said:

Alex.

Thank you for getting the consumers message and telling everyone the truth.  You should know that the majority if your staff in customer relations is not doing that.  You should have that issue fixed if you want the bleeding stopped fast enough.  The communication from Dell to consumer is just absolute disorganized chaos.

The downside to your truthful explanation is unfortunate.  It shows that Dell completely mismanaged this entire release and process and continues to mismanage it.  If I was a consumer I would be concerned about the quality of the product, or worse having to call Dell support after receiving it and going through this process to order, wait, get lied to, be treated poorly, and have their money held for so long by Dell without getting their product. 

It is also important for you to know that the majority of the Executive Escalation team are some of the worst culprits in the botched process.  When you reach most of them, they communicate like robots with no information and force you to look elsewhere for solutions.  I personally got all the correct information from the team in El Salvador and if it were not for them I would not have waited 5 weeks thus far.

After 10 years being a loyal Dell customer, I gave up today and canceled my M1330 and purchased a Fujitsu Lifebook.  I can honestly say that just based on my experience the past 5 weeks with Dell, and comparing it to my one day with Fujitsu, I can't see myself ordering from, or god for bid calling Dell ever again.

Good luck personally and thanks for keeping the consumer informed directly.  They deserve to hear from you daily at this point.

Life is short and the human element in all this situation is missing....Dell is completely wasting so much time from peoples lives during this process and I bet many won't forget this.  I won't.

Mike

Lance said:
Thanks you for your honesty.  My only question now is, why are users who ordered in July getting their laptops before those who ordered in June?  How does the order queue work?
Ernie said:

1520 delays abound as well.   Ordered my system Jul 7/07 and delayed three times since.   Today, Dell has effectively given up projecting a delivery date for fear again setting expections they can't meet.  In this regard, I'll applaud the honesty. 

When following up, I was originally advised the case was back ordered, today I've been told it's the chassis (may well be same parts).    Regardless, shame on Dell for going to market with such hype only to disappoint so many customers.    Besides frustrating its customers, Dell shareholders s/b furious, the company is missing the prime back to school market!

All in all, an execution disaster for what's suppose to be a world class company. 

r u joking me said:
wth is wrong with you ppl? Ok so Dell is falling behind on shipping laptops behind there are a couple of post on here abt ppl who compare dell to sony and Fujitsu? You ppl are stupid for paying for the brand rather than the actual computer! I have purchased 2 desktops, 3 laptops, 2 printers, and a plasma from dell and all it took was some time. Got a guy who posted a blog abt getting his notebook pushed back 4 days! Holy crap man, just be happy that you even got your laptop. There will always be some problem with something, thats how life is so DEAL WITH IT! Dell is doing an awesome job so quit whining about your problems, because no1 wants to hear you!
John said:
Alex thank you for the update to start. I do have a few questions though. for one why are people with newer orders getting units much earlier than people who ordered in June, and more so directly on the 26th? Second, does Dell have any future plans to compensate the loyal customers from day one? Not on a case by case basis (since some CSR's are just plain robots, though my executive support team member is great). Anyway I'm currently awaiting my two m1330's as they have been in boxing for a few days and am eagerly awaiting them, even if its past the ESD.
Kaijin said:
Ordered on 6/26, black with LED, still haven't recieved it or been notified about a delay. Apparently 10% of their backlog isn't the first 10%. So much for first come first serve. I'll not be ordering another Dell, infact I think I'll go retail so it's in my hands, which leaves Dell out twice.
Ven said:
Great update , I think this is what the original DELL culture was. I feel dell did a great job telling us the problem.
Paul S. said:

I want to thank Dell for f'ing this up so badly.  I ordered a RED m1330 with all the bells and whistles (total tag like $2900 w/tax!) on June 29 and got an ESD of August 3.  August 3 has come and gone and my machine has apparently made it as far as "testing."  No call or e-mail re: revised ESD.

But I digress.  The reason I want to thank Dell is because in the weeks it has taken them to build an m1330 for me, I went and got a MacBook, and I'd have to say I'm about 90% through the portal into MacWorld now.  

So, thanks to Dell, I will never again see a "Blue Screen of Death," nor have to spend hours trying to figure out why some stupid application won't install or run in Windows. 

Now the only question remains, does Dell indeed have a "total satisfaction guarantee" that will allow me to take delivery and see if I even like the machine -- and return it for a full refund if I don't -- rather than just canceling the order before it ships.  I e-mailed my CSR about that today but have yet to get an answer.

In the meantime, I find I'm getting very comfortable with the MacBook. 

This is a valuable service Dell has performed for me.  Thanks so much.

--PS

Azariah said:
I ordered my system on the 29th of June. It is a black system with the original screen. My ESD is Aug 14th. I've been calling for about 3 weeks and it is still in pre-production. I'm starting to worry. I need this for school and based on the information that you gave, the system I ordered is not experiencing the manufacturing problems. I too have concerns about the individuals that have ordered after the initial orders receiving their orders first. This seems a bit unfair. How will the individuals that ordered initially be compensated for this?
Kimo said:

Thanks for the update.

Most of us have a pressing need for the unit (not to mention that it looks to be a great machine) and these updates go a long way (for people like me) informed.

I too would appreciate these at a greater frequency.

Thanks again for the update.

 

Tech|noob said:
Filed under: Laptops Dell looked to have a sure winner on its hands with the sexy XPS m1330 laptop, but
bert said:
Any chance of getting one of these with Ubuntu?
Jack said:

How about some information on the Inspirons and their delays? It would be nice if you touched upon the delayed 1520's 1420's and the 1720's.

 

-Jack  

Hermes said:
I am wondering why the Intel Wireless N card is not available as an option in Puerto Rico. It does not seem fair, in my opinion. My estimated ship date for the Dell XPS m1330 is August 31, 2007 and could get to its destination between Sept. 6 - Sept. 20. I find this very disturbing. Hopefully, it will get to me sooner or I might have to consider other options. I already started graduate school on July 31, and really need the laptop ASAP.
Eric Odgaard said:

The delays in shipping have created an extra problem for the 1330.  When it was first announced, it was both new territory in the sleak design and state of the art technology.  But there was one tiny problem before the shipping issues cropped up ...

For the first time, a dell was costing MORE than the similarly equipped VAIO (in this case, the SZ), once you configured them with the same equipment.

I have owned many Dells, but it was a shock to find a machine that takes such naked extra profit from build upgrades.  The $600 figure to upgrade from the minimum hard drive to the 32 GB SSD is a debacle.  And this debacle just got worse, as the new Toshiba (Portege R 500) just launched with a 64 GB SSD upgrade option -- for $550.  Double the space at a lower price -- sorry, Dell, but there is just no excuse.

 In short, thanks to shipping delays and what looks suspiciously like a little greed on Dell's part in pricing the upgrades, the truly high end 1330 is already moving to obsolete.

Truly, truly disappointing.

 

Murdoc said:

I'm greatful that you have finally released the details to the delays.  It's great that you guys have finally got some notebooks shipped and I'm thankful because I ordered on July 24th and got it shipped August 1st so I'm the lucky 10% considering I ordered tux black case.  The reps were nice in answering my questions (except for one which cut me off) but generally I'm satisifed.
 
However, after knowing the reason for the delay I feel it just shows that dell is very unorganized as a large organization.  I'm sure you guys have released notebooks for years and so you know the processes to a mass production with experience.  How is it possible that Dell releases these notebooks for consumers to purchase before running these "mass production tests"?  If the laptops aren't ready for an actual order and dell would already like to see how many people are willing to buy this unit, the best way would be allowing consumers to "pre-order" their laptops.  This way you guys get an estimate on how much parts you need and tell them in advance that there will be a long wait.

 You explained that LED is new so there's going to be shortage. Wouldn't you guys expect that this will happen?  If so, why didn't Dell order more parts in advance?

 Although nothing can be changed now, but I sure hope that Dell will improve this issue in the future.
 

Henry Eng said:
Okay, it's great that Dell is explaining the situation about M1330 but what about all the people who order Inspiron 1520. Many of us order in early July (including me) just to get it on time before school. Now most of us, see a huge delay all the way to aug 28. This is unexceptable. And why are the color lid having so many delay such as blue, pink, and red. I want to know what's going on and why it is taking so long. The color lid isn't even painted on, is it?
Dust Wiper said:
First of all, thanks for letting us know a little about the build process.  But, what I really want to know is why you are painting your notebooks in an old abandoned building.  At least that's where I imagine your factory, since you put so much blame on the dust.  Why not hire someone to clean the building?  I'll do it if the pay is good...
Keith said:

I ordered a Inspiron 1720, Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 July 15th, and still no system, projected delivery is Aug 29, i did order "Spring Green".  

Might I make a suggestion, Painting with a acrylics or oil base paints needs extreme control over the painting environment to have a constant finish, why not Power Cost the lids.  Power coat is extremely durable and does not have the issues that the other painting methods have and you can produce it in large quantities.  Just a thought...  And just trying to get my Laptop.  PLEASE!  Take my money... Sound kind of funny to beg a company to sell me something...

Powder Coating Process: Coating where a powder material is coated onto a surface often using electrostatic or compressed air method. The applied powder is usually heated to its melting point, after which it flows to form a smooth film.

Thanks Keith 

 

Rick Smith said:

Ordered the day it was released, funds posted on the 28th.  Tuxedo black case.  original ship date of August 2nd pushed back to the 28th.  Absolutely must have the machine on or before the 14th of August and canceling if I don't have it in my hands before that [as I musy have the machine on the 15th].  This is after I was charged twice for the notebook and it took Dell three weeks to ship three in-stock monitors.  Friend down the street with exact same specs ordered off of my recommendation on July 13th and got his machine August 1st.  It has been over five weeks since I ordered.  I'm so far beyond pissed.

http://www.philosophyme.com/index.cfm?blog=59
http://www.philosophyme.com/index.cfm?blog=53
http://www.philosophyme.com/index.cfm?blog=49
 

Mike F. said:

Thanks for the update Alex.

I would just like to say one thing: some of you people that ordered the XPS 1330 really need to grow up. You asked for a more detailed update and you got one. Is that not what you wanted? Is this how you act in the real world? What would happen if your boss or your clients saw you acting like a bunch of kids who didn't get a chocolate bar when you went to the store with your mother. Do the more patient and mature crowd a favour; go to the local store that sells baby supplies, pick up a bottle and drink from it. Stop wasting our time with your temper tantrums. I came here to read about updates with Dell and the product i've ordered, not to see a bunch of adults carrying on like thay belong in day care. If you want to be treated like adults you need to start acting like one!

One other thing. A lot of people seem to know that Dell is very disorganized as a large corporation. If you're so smart about running a company such as Dell than go start a business instead of coming here and trying to tell them how to do their job. But don't say too much because you might give away the secrets to being the only company on earth that doesn't experience downtime from technical difficulties.

Rick Smith said:
No wonder we're not getting our notebooks... Dell's firing everyone who's making them:

Dell "to cut 8,800 jobs over next year"
mair said:

What type or sequence are you using to send the laptops, becouse i have heard in forums people that ordered after me and already have recived their m1330 they have my same specs. , with this i am talking for all the people that ordered before themi ordered in mid july but there is a ton of people that ordered before me and people that ordered 20 to 25 of july already recived their computer, just today my order was bumped 3 weeks, i hope this secuence is including all the markets, I am in Latin America and have not heard any people reciving their m1330 down here.

charlie said:

Hi Alex, I appreciate the update. This is the sort of thing we've been wanting to see from day one. It's been a long time in coming, but later is better than never I suppose. It's good to see that the purpose of this blog hasn't been lost over the years and for a company like Dell to get communications out to us is good to see.

Of course a post itself isn't going to ship out M1330s magically - but the effort you've been putting into communications needs to be commended. There are still some who are unhappy with these updates, but I'm honestly not sure what else can be expected at this point, in terms of communications at least. Of course, I can't say I'm terribly pleased that I was mislead in the first place about system availability, but at least you're trying to make up for it. Most other companies wouldn't be this open.

It's unfortunate that it wasn't until mass production that the production issues were caught. Although it's understandable that early production didn't reveal these issues, perhaps that's something to learn from for the next product launch. Start full-scale production of the chassis before the launch - no need to guess what hardware configurations customers are going to order - it seems like most of these issues were with the chassis itself and not the components that go into them. I'd imagine a slight inventory build-up would be worth circumventing this sort of situation in the future.

So keep us notified of any additional developments. I've been in contact with someone at Dell and notified them of another concern, and perhaps the next topic should address the order queue issue - why some are getting their laptops built and shipped before others who ordered the exact same specification system (down to the lid color) much earlier.

Thanks, Charlie.

@Mike F said:

@Mike F

obviously you havent had an order in since june and havent had 3k removed from your acct been lied to over and over and and still don't know when if you will recieve your laptop.

so where do you get off?

Actually its YOU that looks like the the biggest blow hard of anyone.

I'm sure you will get many reply's that reiterate that.

Irate Inspiron 1521 said:

I ordered my laptop on June 27th it was cancelled and I had to reorder it on July 3rd it was pushed back two more times and have now been told they know not when my order will be completed, but that I will get next day shipping. I want my @#&% Inspiron by Monday or they better give me my money back on Monday either one or I am going to alert the BBB(Better Business Board). I knew I didn't want to F with a Dell, but people I trust said that they aren't the same stoner promoting company... I guess they are just getting plain old stoned now! This is an outrage and these pr_cks on here kissing ass must not need their laptop for anything but wanking to pr0n or YouTubing... I will never ever evr F with Dell again nor will I let any of my friends or anyone I know or come within 100 yards of F with this decieving, lying, marijuana managed group of low life scoundrels.

P.S. Thanks Alex! SEND ME MY F'N LAPTOP NOW WITH AN EXTENDED WARRANTY ASWELL AS THE NEXT DAY SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Compensate me said:

Ok, the update was indeed very informative and i understand what is going on. However, one large question still looms in my mind. How are you going to compensate those that have been waiting and waiting and waiting?

I placed my order on the 6/28. The ESD was 8/2. Obviously, dell didn't pull through and when i called them yesterday the csr told me the new ESD is 8/20. From today's update it seems though that date won't even be met.

When a business has erred and the customer suffers as a result, customers are usually compensated in some fashion. For example, when you go to a restaurant and you don't get your food in a timely manner, the manager will usually throw in a free dessert or an appetizer. I think similar philosophy should be in order. Considering those that ordered early won't even get the "$150" bag, i propose that we get a discount of some sort. 10% seems pretty reasonable to me. I only ask that you address the issue and do what is logical.

 Thanks
 

sko said:

Hey Mike F.-

If you don't like reading other people's point of view, stop reading the comments.  Read the update and leave.  That sounds pretty simple to me.  I don't need to start my own business to understand that.

Additionally, if nobody ever commented about these types of issues, nothing would improve.  What you don't seem to understand is that we've paid real money for our purchase - hard-earned money in many cases. 

You're right about one thing though.  We do come here for updates but this is really the first communication from Dell with any real information.  With that said, what did it update?  They're having issues?  Really.  We didn't know that.  Thanks.

A real update is one that details the issues, gives hard timelines as to when purchases will be shipped and provides specific phone numbers for individuals impacted by the delays.  Thus far, that hasn't happened.

Going forward, I'll say what I want to say and you're free to go on with your life believing everything in life improves without needing to voice opinions to affect change. 

Thank you, great! This is the kind of post that we'd been looking for--I really appreciate the honesty! Hope progress continues well.
Steve said:

I ordered on June 27th with an ESD of Aug 1st that has been pushed back to Aug 14th.  Tux black, normal screen, nothing that seems to be on back-order from reading here and other blog sites.

 It is beyond aggravating that people who ordered in mid-July are receiving their unit before someone who ordered the laptop in the first few days of release.  AND they receive a promotional offer.

 I need this laptop before college and they have a funny way of setting the ESD only a few days before I leave.  In other words, I would cancel the order if I knew for sure that it wouldn't be here in time.  But with the chance that it does come on time, I'd be foolish to opt out now.

 All of this aside, I would really appreciate a formal personal e-mail drawing out all the reasons why my system is being delayed.  But apparently, notification of an ESD push-back is something that needs to be hidden from customers.
 

Sad customer said:

I ordered Jet Black Inspiron 1420 on 7/25 and I was wondering why do the people who ordered 5 days later than me with the same specs got theirs earlier than me? My ESD is way in mid August. This is totally not fair at all. Many of the customers need their laptops really soon because a lot of us are first time college students buying their first laptop. Come on dell..

 

 

thanks for update though, appreciate it very much. 

Francesco said:

Finally we have a real update: I would have read such a post at least 3 weeks ago.

I'd like to know if that 10% includes people outside U.S.: I still don't have news of XPS M1330 shipped in Italy, for example.

My order (tuxedo red with WLED display) was placed on 29th of June, estimated ship on 20th of July, delayed to 14th of August but my notebook (already paid) is still in pre-production stage.

M. Amorim said:

@ Henry Eng above

It's not just the XPS M1330 or the Inspiron 1520, the whole Vostro line of notebooks has the same issues. There're people at the Dell Community forums who have been given estimates of 4-6 weeks of delay, no explanations given. I, too, ordered on the 19th of July and have been given an earliest shipping date of 10th of August which I already know cannot be fulfilled. I will be cancelling my order as soon as I get a reply from Dell cust. service regarding my case. Something weird is going on here, danger Will Robinson!

@Mike F. above

Some people here need the computers to work and cannot accept delivery times of 4-6 weeks nor see your order being delayed time and again without any kind of honest explanation nor concern from Dell. This is far more extended than you might think, if you can live without playing WoW for a few weeks that's fine, but business consumers cannot afford to receive this kind of treatment.

Sri said:
Hi, for those people who are lucky enough to recieve the delivery can they please tell me the quality and performance of this system XPS M1330? this is because I'm now concerned that my order will be of lesser quality and performance as I'm afraid Dell will conpromise on quality due to this massive back log. The last thing I want is to get a faulty system after paying 1000's of dollars.
Andrew C. said:

Although I'm not at all happy about the delays (ordered 7/22, EDD is ~9/11 to 9/13), I'm glad that there's FINALLY some meaningful information and some more transparency as to why.

One of my previous groups at work dealt w/this type of problem to some extent (we did the software, but not the hardware)  One VERY popular model of the product was in extremely short supply for a long while.  To ramp up production isn't as easy as just turning a dial to 11 or anything.

First time Dell owner UK said:
Well, my edd has also been postponed twice, but I prefer getting a property quality assured product than sending it back. I must add though that inadequate inventory and not fulfilling on committed delivery dates is not  good business, and definately not what one would suspect from Dell.
Guy T said:

Ordered XPS-M1330 June 28th.  Delivery quoted was July 17th. Dell then changed that to August 7th. Because of that, I cancelled the order.

I was telephoned by Dell and persuaded to re-order on the basis they promised the laptop would be delivered by the end of July. I said OK, I will ONLY order on that basis...i.e. DELIVERY BEFORE END of July.

It is now August 4th NO LAPTOP. Dell now quotes 17th August for delivery. Somehow I am not convinced that even that will happen....

G said:

So theres no problems with Black or CCFL screens?

 

Right well I orderes mine on the 30July with thise specs and its not here on the 4th August... Thanks

 Come on theres obviously more to it than what your saying....

Ducky said:

@Mike F.:

Sucking up to them won't get you your order any quicker. As customers, everyone has the right to complain if they want to. Besides, people are only complaining because Dell is usually such a high-quality company. This is a surprising change in the way they handle things. Don't tell customers to shut up. If you put a few thousand bucks in Dell's pocket, you have the right to ask what's going on when things go wrong.

Not everyone is eternally patient, like yourself.

 

AJ said:

Production problems happen ... waiting until 5:00 on the est. shipping date to inform the customer that you will be over 4 WEEKS late is very very poor practice.  Dell must have known this delay was happening before this point but it leaves the college student purchasers in a terrible bind.

How can I possibly wait until the new est. ship date now that I know Dell has no problem waiting until that day to tell me there will be another delay?? 

 Looks like a cancelled order and a different computer for us.

Bob Clark - NJ said:

Thanks to Dell for this update - the reasons were all plausible.  Keeping customers informed is a must do for any compnay who wants to continue their success.  Hope you will use this debacle as an inflection point to improve your processess going forward.

Customers have a right to be annoyed and many of the posts reflect great comments, but a few are hilarious.  I guess they are on quite a few double-jolt cola drinks or whatever.  One would think Dell killed the family dog or whatever. They certainly don't have a clue on the inner workings of any company. As a buddy of mine pointed out - some of these folks have got to be road rager. I noted a few posts by names which said over a week ago that they had cancelled - yet they continue to rant and rave.  Their jsut jerking Dell's chain. Thanks for the morning laughs.

Mike F. said:

OMG.!! I checked the status this morning and my system is in delivery.

Thanks Dell.

Scott said:
I ordered my 1330 on June 29th, with an Estimated Ship date of end of July. That got delayed till 8/2 so I figured no big deal right? I sign on today and it now says 9/4...a computer I ordered on JUNE 29th is now set for SEPTEMBER 4th? with absolutly no notification, I got no phone calls or emails anything. In fact, I called Dell yesterday and when asked how come my order status is no longer available the person lied and replied "oh it's probably already been shipped", which, we know is an absolute lie to get me off the phone. I go to college the 24th and was DEPENDENT on getting this computer before as stated but no somehow early orders are pushed to the end. Thanks for ruining it Dell.
DJB said:
Got mine yesterday.  Worth the wait!!!!
Now this is my Dell! said:

Thanks Alex. We (I) appreciate this type of open & honest communication. I am sure there are many lessons to learn from this & as a shareholder, I hope it doesn't repeat itself. As a customer, I want my M1330 :)!

As someone suggested, this debacle is serious enough for Dell to set up a hot line for customers with open orders on this machine. Please give that some consideration because frankly your people are either lying to us or just don't have a clue. They have made this situation much worse.

Kaijin said:

Hey Mike F.

My boss is more pissed about me not having my laptop than I am, since I ordered it through my work program, for work. He went and yelled at our IT department, which has direct contact with our Dell representative, on my behalf, which I didn't approve of and had to appologize to IT for. My peers at work not only sympathize, but admit that they would have "flown off the handle" weeks ago.

To anyone who's been waiting over a month for a $3000~ laptop from a supposed "big name reliable company", it is perfectly reasonable to act in any fashion, including cancelling your order and contacting the BBB.

Elliott said:

If the Pearl White was fine when being sprayed in the hundreds why not offer it at a Premium price. If the customer really wants it, they will pay for it. Especially If you continue to be open with your customers and they know why it's at a premium and understand they are not being taken for a ride.

Customers that don't want to pay the premium can still go for the black or red finishes. 

What with the delays and now no white option I think I will be opting for the Sony VAIO SZ691N instead, Saying that I will be back to look at your offerings when it comes to replacing the Sony.

 


Phil Crinnion said:
I appreciate the comments. Finally someone at Dell is talking to the customer. However my White xps m1330 has been pushed back delivery wise too far. I'm getting a Mac Book on monday.
Víctor said:
It's nice that someone finally provides some insight on what te problem is, but the overall execution is awful. 1) One month after sending the M1330 to reviewers, you start taking orders. No word of any possible delay on the web or when ordering by phone. 2) Fingerprint reader not available to order from web, T7700 available. 3) Got an ESD of mid july, standard 10 - 15 days. 4) A few days later T7700 is removed from options. 5) ESD gets pushed back to july 30, no notice. System in "preproduction" 6) Got a call saying that system would leave factory on july 25. (didn't) 7) ESD gets pushed back to August 30 (total, 2 months) 8) White display no longer an option, added SSD option, though 9) Same configuration is now €200 more expensive . 10) Customer support says that the delay is due to CPU availability. 11) Cust rep agrees to send a list of possible "compensations", never got anything. As you can understand, it's difficult to believe anything right now.
Simon said:

First off, thanks for the info. Cant wait for mine to arrive... :-) i am just thanking the good lord that i picked black.

 

But i have to agree with so many people here... Dell you've let yourselves down a bit here... such a great product, real chance of grabbing a lot of laptop customers back from other brands (sony/hp etc), only to let them down again... :-(



I'm sure most of us will stay loyal. but for how long... 

Pissed Off said:
Seriously, Dell, get your act together.  I've been a loyal customer for years, and I ordered on July 20th (ish).  Of course, the ESD is August 20th, but based on these forums, I dont even know if I'll get it then....and I am absolutely fed up with the Customer Service and lack of explanation as to why I can't get a 4 cell battery (got the nVidia card) and a 9 cell.  LET CUSTOMERS HAVE WHAT THEY WANT.  And please, ramp up production, you have to realize that XPS customers are your highest margin suckers....so you delay production at the risk of losing them all to competition that is on top of their game.
Stefan said:
I ordered the system on the 28th of June (if i recall correctly) and the scheduled date for my tuxedo black, with lcd system, is the 28th of August. Now Mr. Gruzen, I whole heartedly understand it must be a difficult job to hold employees and suppliers accountable, but ultimately your customers and shareholders will be holding you accountable. I'm a consumer, how is partial to the Dell brand and in general the Windows platform. I must say as a consumer and a follower of the tech industry, I wish you best. However, if your ultimate goal is to maximize profits, minimize customer turnover, and better compete with Apple, Sony and IBM, these events can not repeat themselves. You need to have a production cycle that is months in advance and take the supply risk, as opposed to having hundreds of angry customers commenting on your post. Now it comes down to supply chain management, and clearly your years of experience have not shown in this case. 

In my opinion, Dell needs a new mission statement. One that promises to deliver a superior product, that does not necessarily need to be the first to the market, but is guaranteed to be shipped within a week of order and is definitely ready for delivery (in whatever configuration) as of the date of announcement. I believe that if you set the goal, you'll develop the process across the board to achieve this goal. Personally, as a past shareholder, this is what I demand from my company and is one reason I'm no longer financially invested. Please set a new standard of innovation and excellence that we expect from the Dell name.
Karl said:

Thanks for sheding some light over this story! I agree with Joseph above when he's saying that he has no problem waiting when he knows why. Or almost... I want my laptop, but this made it so much easier...

 And my compliments to this boss-Alex this time. Last time he made me angry, but this post was good! It felt honest and I hope it was... Keep the information coming and I hope you get more understanding from your customers...

 
And get me my laptop ;)
 

William said:

Thanks Dell for a wasted summer of waiting.

 Canceled: Dell XPS m1330, years of Dell customer loyalty, and many referrals to friends

 
Ordered: Sony SZ650 N/C

 

No, $100 coupon, Next Business Day shipping is not enough to compensate for feigned silence, hours on the phone with Indian tech support, and the productivity lost without a laptop arriving.

 
Nice one.

Bob said:

Per Scott's comment, I doubt there are many, if any instances where Dell is purposely shipping late to those who placed their orders early after their product announcement.  Perhaps Scott ordered his in white or red - and we know why those are slow off the line or perhaps the LED display which are also slow coming out ?

Come-on Scott - get real - I doubt a late delivery of a laptop has ruined your entire education.  If this bothers you that much - wait until you get out into the real world and start working......

Patrick J said:

mm yes tx for the update,,just got informend that they have delayed my order further

Order date:  2007-06-28

Delivery date: 2007-09-06   what a joke

i will cancel my order 

Paul said:
Does getting the LED w/ webcam delay more than getting it without?
Jack E said:

Agreed, the explanation is plausible but, like many others here I simply question releasing a product of this nature without a clue as to potential problems like the lack of LED screens, paint problems (dust? gimme a break!) etc, etc.

So many seem to be happy with the explanation but after reading it again I find that it is nothing more than Dell telling us that they were not prepared for release. Please don't continue to thank Dell for screwing this up and then admitting it...it hasn't changed a thing. Why is there no explanation for all of the canceled orders? Why is there no explanation for the behavior of the CS folks? Why is there no explanation for the not being ready to build and ship a product that we have paid for? Lack of LEDs, dust in the paint, engineering problems, blah, blah...

Mike F...does the F stand for fanboy?  You should seriously think it through next time before posting. We have a legitimate problem with this situation and you simply took the opportunity to fan the flames. Nice.

RK said:
I've ordered 42 XPS M1330 systems.  The first batch of 2 systems are supposed to ship this Tuesday on 8/7/07.  I ordered between July 5 and July 12.  I've also contacted Customer Service and they said they would expedite my order.  These are supposed to ship NBD.  I ordered a red model with an LCD screen.  An explanation posted above is plausible if your running your business out of your garage, but what is even more upsetting than the delay is the response by Dell.   I can't seem to understand why a company can't tell its customers days or even a week before delivery that it will not be able to meet EDD.  I have already waited a month for these units.  I will probably wait a few more weeks but this debacle shows you how not to handle public relations and customer service.
Heatsink, Fan, and Heart Broken said:

Ordered my black XPS M1330 w/ the T7700 on July 27th got it on August 2nd. (Impressive) Booted up for the first time and it sounded like an F-16 taking off. After three calls and 3 and a half hours later; will have a tech fix visit my house to fix the exhaust heatsink and fan.

I wondered how difficult it would be to test noise levels to search for anomalies while running burn in tests?   

Layoff 8,800 employees? I bet that will make the board of directors and their stock options happy! As long as Dell or any other American company continues to spend money on lawyers, lobbyists, and politicians while divesting in customer service, quality control, and your own employees. You'll always be a shell of what Dell once was.    

tony said:

what kind of company is it?????????  BIG DELL... 

 suppost to be a world class company.  but right now DELL is trying to sell the product without the product. 

it's not funny to lure people to a very nice product and make them wait 8 weeks long. 

ordered my m1330 on july 2nd and after read all the post, i will cancell the order first thing in the morning (h...with them and f...them too).  just wasted my whole summer to d...DELL

i will drive 80 miles to get me a much classier new  VAIO TZ with all the high end stuff that already builded.(the product available only 1 week after post on the web site)  don't mind to pay more.

 ps.  hey DELL, don't claimed xps m1330 as a high-end unit.  if it is, why are you trying to sell so many up-grade crabs?  made me sick after been royal to DELL for the past 6 yrs.

Om mani padme hum said:

I'm afraid there is little more content in Mr. Gruzen's latest post than in his previous post. Except for the specific 10% number, everything is vague. People don't want to know what the general problems are; that's just excuses (we have no way of verifying the reasons given anyway). What people care about is specifically when they'll get their m1330, why their orders were canceled, or why their specific laptop is delayed when they didn't order white or they ordered in June. No answer is ever given for these questions. So this blog is just a way of blowing people off, of reducing the load on customer service..
 
I ordered 7/23 and was given an est ship date of 9/4. When I check status, this date is unchanged, But if I configure a new system today (8/6) with exactly the same specs, I get an est ship date of 8/23. What gives? (I won't hold my breath waiting for a specific answer.)

P.S. At 10% a week, it will take 10 weeks to catch up with the backlog, not counting any new orders placed during those 10 weeks.

P.P.S. We're being told to check status, but the estimated ship date is never recalculated.  

Trebuin said:
Ordered morning of the 26 June...still waiting.
Shoe said:

to Mike F

You asked "Is this how you act in the professional world ?" Well, yes actually. If a vendor promises me a delivery date and keeps slipping it on the day they claim to be delivering with an ill connected series of excuses and it turns out they've already charged the money knowing they cannot deliver then ....... hell yes !!!

In cases where a vendor has caused that much grief and outright lied I cancel the order and make darned sure the company is put on a "caution advised" or "black" list.

 There is one difference here. Since my M1330 is a personal laptop (i.e this effects only me and not my company) my only recourse is cancelling my order, making sure friends, coleagues and family are made well aware this happens to customers of that company and, if they don't refund my money promptly informing my credit card provider there's a scam at work.

If it was in a professional context, say for example an order for several dozen servers and associated IT Gear, and out go live date was pushed out by a couple of months (and costing my company a significant loss in schedule and penalties) ........ I'd be sending the legal team in with a hunting license !!!    

Mike said:

hmm am I the only one who thinks that this update is also a lie?

I mean, Dell isn´t doing anything with the parts. They get them delivered by a different vendor who is assembling them in thousands.

Dell is only putting them together. 

So there shouldn´t be a color or dust problem, otherwise what will hapen if those parts get broken in few months.

Will an engineer come on site and paint it for you? 

Chris D said:

I cancelled my order today and am awaiting the refund so I can spend my money at Sony.

After having the delivery date change multiple times (17 july -> 30 July -> 8th Aug -> 17th September there was no way i was going to hang around no matter how good a unit it may be.

Also what is with Dell CS, after I asked to cancel surprise surprise I was transferred through 6 people over 45minutes before someone would actually cancel it, one girl even tried to convince me the unit would ship in 3 days... yeah as if anyone will believe those lies at this stage. 

All in all, my first dell purchase becomes the worst IT purchase I have ever made and also my last Dell purchase. 


 

Chuck Lesker said:
To "Mike": Yes, the paint problem is probably not happening in Dell's own facilities. Dell is just repeating lame excuses given to them by their supplier.
Chris said:

My original order was placed on July 13th but then canceled and placed again on July 25th.  It shipped out on August 3rd and I should have it by the end of this week.

Thanks to everyone who canceled their orders so that I could get mine sooner!

No I'm not happy with the delays, but it will all be worth it when I have the m1330 in my hands!

 

Andrew said:

From reading these comments, I see a lot of upset Inspiron customers that would like some answers as well.  I ordered my 1520 on July 9th only to have my ship date pushed back to August 2nd and now August 28th.  My case color is Ruby Red if that matters. 

Don't you understand that some of us need these computers for school?  I start law school August 20th and now its too late to order a computer from another manufacturer and get it in on time.  I see that one Inspiron orderee was promised free next day shipping.  Why isn't that being given to everyone who has experienced these ridiculous delays?

 We would like some answers...now!

impatiently waiting said:
I'm hearing a lot about the XPS M1330, but what about Inspirons? People are waiting for those too.
Anthony said:

Ordering my 1330 on June 10th, I was informed during the ordering process that it would be delivered in 4 to 6 weeks. Failing to ship my order prior to their own specified deadline, I promptly cancelled my order after 51 days of waiting, incidentally that is 9 days after I anticipated receipt of my new 1330. Shelling out $2,000.00 for a laptop, I expect the company profiting from my IT needs to be better managed. I am glad to see that Michael Dell has returned to lead his company, without him they have failed miserably. As for me and my order, maybe you will see me in 2 to 3 years, when my new HP laptop needs to be replaced, by then though Dell may only be making HDTV's or just selling Sony's.  

Bob said:

The last few posters indicate they cancelled and are awaiting 'refunds' ?  Dell typically does not charge a cc until the product is shipped.  My current order for a 1330 will be my 7th Dell box and they have never charged my account in advance of shipment.  What kind of card are you guys using ?  Also - your implications that Dell may be pulling a scam - come on - you know that isn't the case here.  They may have fallen down in customer expectations on this one, but stealing your money is not their game.  Fine - give you biz to Sony or Toshiba and when you have an issue - good luck in getting it fixed fast and you will be getting less for your money overall.  Dell's service is the primary reason I stay with them year after year.

As for the 1330 naysayers - a friend back in NYC got his delivered on Friday in red and he says it is everything Dell said it would be.  A great device.  I also hear that despite the startup hastles and major irritations, this product is fast becoming one of their best launches ever in terms of revenue. Sales are ramping up not down even with the negative comments here.

Paul said:

We should be glad at least one of management is here explaining us what is going on. We know unexpected delays can happen and myself have some orders on hold but I'm being patient.
 
I remember few years back Dell worked around clock to beat strike on the west coast and they did an incredible job. I'm sure employees in Texas and across pacific are working hard trying to get orders shipped with acceptable quality.